259813 2010-12-14 08:40:01 +0000 reading mails in unread mode instantly disappears from list 2018-02-18 11:14:37 +0000 1 1 2 Applications kmail2 general 5.3.0 Unlisted Binaries Linux CONFIRMED https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350731 usability NOR normal --- 303462 1 m.wege pim-bugs-null a.key anthony.renoux arthur axel.braun billtsil buddha bugs.kde.org cfeck f.fainelli fabian homem.gustavo ingo krustev luisfe meyerm montel nate nycjpm rdieter s.suther shai wstephenson 218 oldest_to_newest 1058523 0 m.wege 2010-12-14 08:40:01 +0000 Version: 2.0.89 OS: Linux When I configure Kmail2 only to show unread mails, the mail I read is instantly marked as unread (which might be ok) and then disappears from the list of mails (which is bad and different from the behaviour in Kmail1). The disadvantage compared to the behaviour in Kmail1 is that I can not do anything with that mail anymore using the mouse. I can not decide mark it as unread, move it to another space and so on. Keyboard short cuts seem to work, but it would be really great if the old behaviour would work again, since I hardly use them. In Kmail the unread mail stayed visuable for a while, even when moving on to the next mail. Reproducible: Always OS: Linux (i686) release 2.6.37-7-generic-pae Compiler: cc 1066390 1 m.wege 2011-01-01 14:28:58 +0000 Still a problem in KDE PIM 4.6 beta3 1132794 2 meyerm 2011-06-19 12:12:00 +0000 Also valid for KMail 2.1.0. BTW: Behaviour in Akregator (or KMail 1) is to leave that mail visible even though it is now marked as read and the filter says "only unread". That's good ;-) Perhaps an alternative would be to remove the mail from the listview as soon as the user moves on to the next mail (by mouse or keyboard). 1149123 3 bugs.kde.org 2011-08-03 02:33:19 +0000 *** Bug 279118 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 1161393 4 m.wege 2011-09-10 07:31:13 +0000 Still an issue in 4.7.1 1174983 5 m.wege 2011-10-19 06:31:19 +0000 Any chance this will get fixed? Appart from stability and speed, this is one of my main issues with Kmail2. 1219977 6 frogbarf 2012-01-28 20:37:38 +0000 *** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. *** 1224559 7 montel 2012-02-08 16:42:05 +0000 *** Bug 293620 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 1224562 8 f.fainelli 2012-02-08 16:48:25 +0000 Any chances this gets fixed anytime of the other? 1224567 9 montel 2012-02-08 16:54:37 +0000 I will look at messagelist 1260656 10 f.fainelli 2012-05-31 07:57:49 +0000 Ping! What's the supposed workflow when reading emails with this bug? As soon as I read a mail, it disappears, along with the corresponding thread, so I have to manually search back for the thread I was reading, not convenient. 1298023 11 axel.braun 2012-09-17 15:14:49 +0000 Still a problem in KDE 4.9.1..... 1298870 12 m.wege 2012-09-20 11:25:27 +0000 I nominate this one for extra mile. 1299183 13 myriam 2012-09-21 10:19:53 +0000 (In reply to comment #12) > I nominate this one for extra mile. Laurent? 1308467 14 f.fainelli 2012-10-23 14:21:45 +0000 This bug is still present as of 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu2, please fix this. 1308473 15 m.wege 2012-10-23 14:48:22 +0000 Oh yes, I believe this is the last severe bug (after address autocomplete was fixed) which prevents me from using Kmail again. 1313858 16 montel 2012-11-09 13:11:31 +0000 *** Bug 309806 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 1322081 17 montel 2012-12-08 10:57:48 +0000 *** Bug 311317 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 1329624 18 ingo 2013-01-07 18:30:10 +0000 more than 2 years down the track and no fix yet? 1366921 19 axel.braun 2013-05-07 12:05:32 +0000 bug is still in 4.10.2..... 1371320 20 f.fainelli 2013-05-26 16:23:22 +0000 Laurent or someone else, please fix this, this is really annoying. 1371322 21 m.wege 2013-05-26 16:25:51 +0000 I agree. It would be really nice, if this would be fixed :-) 1380839 22 f.fainelli 2013-07-02 18:18:07 +0000 Not only would it be nice; but it would make Kmail usable again. What is the suggested way to use Kmail these days without this? I really liked the old "New" filter which would not make the emails disappear but this was closed with no explanation what so ever: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293620 1380844 23 bugs.kde.org 2013-07-02 18:27:39 +0000 > What is the suggested way to use Kmail these days without this? What I'm forced to do is filter on unread to see what the e-mails are, then get rid of that filter and then filter on the subject of the e-mail so that only that thread appears (or only threads with similar subjects depending on how much of the subject I specify and how unique it is). At that point, when I click on the unread e-mails, they don't disappear, since the filter is on the subject rather than their status. But it's definitely not as pleasant as being able to doing this by simpling filtering on unread. It's the only way that I'd found to reasonably get around this bug though. 1380852 24 f.fainelli 2013-07-02 18:51:31 +0000 Previous kmail versions achieved the exact same in one click with "New", but for some unknown reason this will not be added again, I am really curious as to why. Thanks for sharing your "workflow" with Kmail. 1380892 25 homem.gustavo 2013-07-02 22:14:31 +0000 @Jonathan, That works but makes it totally unusable. No other email / webmail client makes the emails disappear when browsing through them in "unread filter" mode. 1380898 26 bugs.kde.org 2013-07-02 23:32:56 +0000 > That works but makes it totally unusable. No other email / webmail client makes the emails disappear when browsing through them in "unread filter" mode. I'm not arguing for a moment that this bug does not need to be fixed. In fact, I find it _really_ annoying. I was explaining how I get around the bug. 1381340 27 m.wege 2013-07-04 16:13:45 +0000 For me this bug is the main reason for not using Kmail anymore. Although I really would like to use it again. 1381345 28 montel 2013-07-04 16:27:46 +0000 (In reply to comment #27) > For me this bug is the main reason for not using Kmail anymore. Although I > really would like to use it again. Waou, it's just this one which makes that you don't use kmail. I will put it on my todo before crashs, an other big bugs. Ok will do :) I change my priorities :) 1381347 29 f.fainelli 2013-07-04 16:29:21 +0000 (In reply to comment #28) > Waou, it's just this one which makes that you don't use kmail. > I will put it on my todo before crashs, an other big bugs. > Ok will do :) I change my priorities :) Great! Thanks Laurent! 1381398 30 axel.braun 2013-07-04 20:13:43 +0000 (In reply to comment #27) > For me this bug is the main reason for not using Kmail anymore. Although I > really would like to use it again. Well, compared to the fact that I lost 4 years of communication due to the bugs in disconnected IMAP this bug is a piece of cake.... Nevertheless I prefer KMail over Thunderbird and similar...but akonadi & co need some tuning 1384091 31 montel 2013-07-17 17:25:19 +0000 *** Bug 322455 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 1414534 32 f.fainelli 2013-11-26 19:16:53 +0000 So, I am totally tired of waiting for that simple thing to come back. My best bet now is that the kdepim developpers do not actually use their own software, or maybe they can read emails in the blink of an eye, pick your option. 1457508 33 cfeck 2014-06-24 12:55:42 +0000 My guess is that it's just not easy to change. If the filtered view is designed to reflect the status of the message, it will disappear when it is read. I don't know the internals, but I think a new status ("read but not really read") would need to be introduced. 1457522 34 m.wege 2014-06-24 13:25:24 +0000 May be it could help to see how it was done in Kmail1? 1471146 35 cfeck 2014-09-14 14:52:44 +0000 *** Bug 339047 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 1516308 36 a.key 2015-05-05 12:40:26 +0000 Could this be finally fixed ? That quick filter "Unread" function is basically useless with this bug. 1560637 37 cfeck 2015-11-30 15:02:35 +0000 *** Bug 356117 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 1637124 38 cfeck 2016-11-02 15:53:49 +0000 *** Bug 371903 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 1643585 39 axel.braun 2016-12-06 08:00:44 +0000 (In reply to a.key from comment #36) > Could this be finally fixed ? > That quick filter "Unread" function is basically useless with this bug. yes, and it was perfectly ported to 5.3.0 - as the 4.x tree is not maintained any longer, should we maybe update the version? 1669241 40 axel.braun 2017-03-30 13:13:47 +0000 Still a problem in KMail 5.4.3 1671869 41 krustev 2017-04-17 16:31:44 +0000 I also find this bug annoying. I've used KMail from Debian Wheezy - vKMail 4.4.11 ( https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/kmail ). Interestingly, others reported that the feature was removed in much previous version. It worked for me in 4.4.1 though. Now I'm with Debian Stretch with KMail 5.2.3 . A workaround I currently use is to disable the immediate marking of opened messages as read. IMHO filters to the message list should only be applied "onChange" of the filter button, as it previously was. And guys, thanks for the wonderful software! I've been using it for a decade .. or more ;)