145953 2007-05-25 15:53:36 +0000 "Allow unsolvable games" check box or engine is broken 2010-10-03 16:50:38 +0000 1 1 2 Applications kshisen general 1.5.1 Ubuntu Linux RESOLVED FIXED NOR normal --- 1 rick piacentini plantasbaja purslow 0 oldest_to_newest 528061 0 rick 2007-05-25 15:53:36 +0000 Version: 1.5.1 (using KDE KDE 3.5.5) Installed from: Ubuntu Packages OS: Linux When the "Allow unsolvable games" box (in the "Configure - Shisen-Sho" dialog) is not checked, which should disallow unsolvable games, unsolvable games do occur -- I have a screen shot of at least one. It has a pattern of mutual blocking like this: ........ ...XO... ...OX... ........ where "X" & "O" are pairs (not members of n-tuples) and had no other matches at the beginning of the game (Tile Size: 14x6 ==> 84 tile game, pairs & quadruples only). On the other hand, after I checked the box I have yet to encounter an unsolvable game. So, either the engine that determines solveability is broken; or, more likely, the labelling on the box is logically reversed. 528077 1 rick 2007-05-25 16:13:43 +0000 This is similar to, possibly related to; but not the same as: Bug 14175: unsolvable games are solvable [CLOSED] BTW, the fact that the Handbook confirms the mis-labelling: "If checked, only solvable games will be created when a new game is started. Note: You may still choose the wrong way and have to try again if you didn't solve the game, but if it's checked, the game will be solvable." is no excuse for it. 570342 2 dimsuz 2008-01-12 18:08:04 +0000 Reassigning to the current maintainer 570563 3 piacentini 2008-01-13 00:45:46 +0000 Appears to still be present in 4.0, under investigation 875994 4 purslow 2009-12-08 10:16:41 +0000 I've been playing Kshisen 4.3.1 a lot recently & my observation is that there are 2 things wrong: (1) 'allow unsolvable games' has its values reversed, ie if you say 'yes' there are no clearly unsolvable games, but if you say 'no' you can run into games which reach a stalemate a few simple moves after the start: this may be a simple error by the programmer, which could be solved by inspecting the code & seeing which values actually do what; (2) the 3 settings for 'easy/medium/difficult' have no noticeable effect: was this overlooked or left for later by the programmer ? BTW I don't use gravity & play 18 x 8 . 1026582 5 schwarzer 2010-10-01 22:02:36 +0000 *** Bug 252914 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** 1026591 6 schwarzer 2010-10-01 22:38:29 +0000 SVN commit 1181702 by schwarzer: fix logical error Checking this option ensures that the created games are solvable. The option label was wrong. I could have kept the lebel and adjusted the code accordingly but I decided to keept the code and switch the meaning of the label, since it makes more sense this way. Thanks to all the reporters for analysing this. :) BUG: 145953 M +2 -2 settings.ui WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1181702 1026617 7 plantasbaja 2010-10-01 23:43:49 +0000 i'm 2 for 2 and it seems ok now, thanks. --- On Fri, 10/1/10, Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzerf@gmail.com> wrote: From: Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzerf@gmail.com> Subject: [Bug 145953] "Allow unsolvable games" check box or engine is broken To: plantasbaja@yahoo.com Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 1:38 PM https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145953 Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzerf@gmail.com> changed:            What    |Removed                     |Added ----------------------------------------------------------------------------              Status|ASSIGNED                    |RESOLVED          Resolution|                            |FIXED --- Comment #6 from Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzerf gmail com>  2010-10-01 22:38:29 --- SVN commit 1181702 by schwarzer: fix logical error Checking this option ensures that the created games are solvable. The option label was wrong. I could have kept the lebel and adjusted the code accordingly but I decided to keept the code and switch the meaning of the label, since it makes more sense this way. Thanks to all the reporters for analysing this. :) BUG: 145953 M  +2 -2      settings.ui  WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1181702 1027139 8 schwarzer 2010-10-03 13:48:50 +0000 SVN commit 1182109 by schwarzer: fix logical error Checking this option ensures that the created games are solvable. The option label was wrong. I could have kept the label and adjusted the code accordingly but I decided to keep the code and switch the meaning of the label, since it makes more sense this way. backport of r1181702, r1181704, r1181709, r1181811 and r1181819 CCBUG: 145953 M +0 -3 app.cpp M +2 -2 board.cpp M +4 -4 board.h M +1 -1 kshisen.kcfg M +2 -2 settings.ui WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1182109 1027190 9 plantasbaja 2010-10-03 16:50:38 +0000 thank you frederik --- On Sun, 10/3/10, Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzerf@gmail.com> wrote: From: Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzerf@gmail.com> Subject: [Bug 145953] "Allow unsolvable games" check box or engine is broken To: plantasbaja@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 4:49 AM https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145953 --- Comment #8 from Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzerf gmail com>  2010-10-03 13:48:50 --- SVN commit 1182109 by schwarzer: fix logical error Checking this option ensures that the created games are solvable. The option label was wrong. I could have kept the label and adjusted the code accordingly but I decided to keep the code and switch the meaning of the label, since it makes more sense this way. backport of r1181702, r1181704, r1181709, r1181811 and r1181819 CCBUG: 145953 M  +0 -3      app.cpp  M  +2 -2      board.cpp  M  +4 -4      board.h  M  +1 -1      kshisen.kcfg  M  +2 -2      settings.ui  WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1182109