Bug 320922 - No ability to place location bar above tabbar
Summary: No ability to place location bar above tabbar
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: dolphin
Classification: Applications
Component: bars: location (show other bugs)
Version: 2.2
Platform: Other Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Dolphin Bug Assignee
URL:
Keywords: accessibility, usability
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2013-06-08 18:17 UTC by Teodor
Modified: 2013-06-11 02:11 UTC (History)
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Description Teodor 2013-06-08 18:17:21 UTC
Please add an ability to place location bar above tabbar in dolphin

Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 Christoph Feck 2013-06-09 23:48:11 UTC
What would be the benefit? The URL is usually different for each tab, so having it "outside" the tabs seems natural.
Comment 2 Teodor 2013-06-10 11:37:40 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> What would be the benefit?
The benefit is to have everything customizable. And if everything is customizable it is a key for comfort and usability.

> having it "outside" the tabs seems natural.
Not for me. Firefox has addresbar above the tabs - very usefull.
1) switching tabs is more often needed, then typing a new address, so it is closer to the center of the screen
2) it is good, when you can quikly hit the edge of the screen (not looking where axactly is bar located) and start typing and you can't miss because the address bar is at the top of the screen (of cource if the browser is stretched to the edge and dos not have a titlebar)
Comment 3 Frank Reininghaus 2013-06-10 11:43:23 UTC
Thanks Christoph for asking the obvious question :-)

(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> > What would be the benefit?
> The benefit is to have everything customizable. And if everything is
> customizable it is a key for comfort and usability.

No. If everything is customizable, then the settings dialog becomes unusable, and the appication will turn into an unmaintainable mess.

Therefore, we will not implement this. Sorry about that.

> 1) switching tabs is more often needed, then typing a new address

This may be true for you, but saying that this is more often needed in general is a very bold statement to make ;-)
Comment 4 Teodor 2013-06-10 18:27:23 UTC
>The URL is usually different for each tab, so 
So
The status bar, which shows free space of disk is usualy common for every tab, so you have to locate it above tabs.
Title bar depends on the location bar, so it should be under it!
Places bar definitly should be above everything!!!
Preview and information bars should be precisely in bottom

> No. If everything is customizable, then the settings dialog becomes
> unusable, and the appication will turn into an unmaintainable mess.
What common between moving a panel and settings dialog? Other panels are movable and it dosn't influence any settings dialigs.

> Therefore, we will not implement this. Sorry about that.
OK. I 'll better use Enlightment DE. Someday I will create a fork of KDE
Comment 5 Teodor 2013-06-10 18:44:11 UTC
> the appication will turn into an unmaintainable mess.
The location bar is the only bar that is cannot be moved. I don't beleve that the application will turn into an unmaintainable mess because of 1 panel
Comment 6 Frank Reininghaus 2013-06-10 22:36:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> What common between moving a panel and settings dialog? Other panels are
> movable and it dosn't influence any settings dialigs.

(In reply to comment #5)
> The location bar is the only bar that is cannot be moved. I don't beleve
> that the application will turn into an unmaintainable mess because of 1 panel

Just in case it isn't obvious, there is actually a *huge* difference between the location bar and, e.g., the movable Places Panel. Just try to split the view (F3). You'll see that every view has its own location bar. If one would move the location bar above the tab bar, we would have only one (two split location bars above the tab bar make no sense IMHO). I hope that even you agree that there is a big conceptual difference between

(a) Each split view has its own location bar.
(b) There is one location bar, which is always linked to the active view and needs to be updated if the other view becomes active.

And I also hope that you believe me now that giving the user the choice between (a) and (b) would require huge changes.
Comment 7 Teodor 2013-06-11 02:11:33 UTC
> agree that there is a big conceptual difference between
Now I see.
But when I was talking that location bar is the only bar that is not movable, I was wrong too. Is it posible that there will be an oportunity to move tabbar to bottom above or below statusbar? Or option to hide location bar?
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320925
My mother recently started to use computer. Before she has never used a computer in her life.
So, I think it would be better for her and for me, if she will not know what /etc, /home, /bin etc directories are. A compputer is very difficult for her, she even often forgets how to copy fotos from SD card to HDD, so she'll just get lost in all of that directories and accidently may spoil something in /home. Now the file manager on her netbook (konqueror, because it is more sutable for that) has locked window position and coordinates so the upper part of it, which has locationbar, is hided over the edge of the screen, so she can't access the location bar. But I think that is is not a flawless way