Bug 150733 - Setting konqueror in offline mode blocks amarok connections
Summary: Setting konqueror in offline mode blocks amarok connections
Status: RESOLVED NOT A BUG
Alias: None
Product: amarok
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Debian testing Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Amarok Developers
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Reported: 2007-10-12 00:04 UTC by Fernando Diaz
Modified: 2012-02-20 23:58 UTC (History)
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Description Fernando Diaz 2007-10-12 00:04:32 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.5.7)
Installed from:    Debian testing/unstable Packages
OS:                Linux

I do not use konqueror as my primary web browser, just occasionally to do some testing, and in one of those occasions I set konqueror to offline mode and forgot about it.
Some days later I discovered that amarok wasn't submitting data to the last.fm service, and after doing some testing, it also wasn't able to fetch covers from amazon or artist information from wikipedia. After spending a lot of time searching through internet, I found a post at kubuntu forums ( http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3084031.0 ) that reminded me that I had konqueror in offline mode. Putting it online again fixed the problems I was experiencing with amarok.
So, what I'm still trying to understand is why should independent applications interfere with each other the way konqueror blocked amarok's access to the internet? This may be a bug in konqueror, but amarok doesn't give any indication of being online or offline, so it's at least partially responsible of this very odd behavior.
Comment 1 Seb Ruiz 2007-10-12 04:54:15 UTC
this is certainly not a bug with amarok.

How do you even set konqueror to offline mode? I couldnt find a way
Comment 2 Fernando Diaz 2007-10-12 15:20:50 UTC
In konqueror menu: Settings->Configure Konqueror
In the dialog that pops up, go to the "Cache" section, and if "Use cache" is enabled, you can select "Offline browsing mode" as a Policy

How can this "certainly" not be a bug in amarok? I don't know how amarok tries to download files from internet, but I'm pretty sure that it shouldn't depend on configurations that are specific to other applications, such as the above one from konqueror.
Comment 3 Seb Ruiz 2007-10-12 23:47:10 UTC
it is certainly not an amarok problem because we simply use the underlying KDE infrastructure to access the internet. if konqueror turns this off for all applications then how can we do anything about it.

I can confirm, so reassigning to konqueror
Comment 4 Martin Koller 2011-06-11 19:13:03 UTC
This is still the case with 4.6.3: When the cache policy in konqueror is set to "offline mode", amarok can not download artist information or lyrics.
Comment 5 Dawit Alemayehu 2012-01-03 21:20:55 UTC
Caching is not a Konqueror specific setting. As with every other KIO setting it is system wide. More specifically it is a kio_http setting that affects all applications. The configuration dialog can be lanuched directly by typing "Cache" in the run dialog (ALT+F2).

The reporter simply confused the matter because the only application that includes that global setting dialog is Konqueror. Perhaps it is not best it does that since that will affect the global settings and hence affect every application and confuse users.

Most importantly however, this IS an amarok bug. The global "Caching" settings can easily be overridden by the application through the use of the KIO meta-data system when downloading material using KIO. All Amarok has to do is set the "cache" keyword to "reload".[1]

[1] https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdelibs/repository/revisions/master/entry/kio/DESIGN.metadata
Comment 6 Myriam Schweingruber 2012-01-03 22:48:32 UTC
Which Amarok version is this about? Please upgrade to Amarok 2.5 which is the latest stable version.
Comment 7 Fernando Diaz 2012-01-04 00:34:53 UTC
I'm afraid I can't help with testing this bug anymore, since I no
longer use KDE.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Myriam Schweingruber <myriam@kde.org> wrote:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150733
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> --- Comment #6 from Myriam Schweingruber <myriam kde org>  2012-01-03 22:48:32 ---
> Which Amarok version is this about? Please upgrade to Amarok 2.5 which is the
> latest stable version.
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Comment 8 Myriam Schweingruber 2012-02-20 23:58:44 UTC
Closing for lack of feedback, please feel free to reopen if you can reproduce this with Amarok 2.5 or later and provide the necessary feedback..