Summary: | Event notification in KOrganizer / Kontact UI inconsistency | ||
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Product: | [Applications] korganizer | Reporter: | Volker Blum <volker_blum> |
Component: | general | Assignee: | kdepim bugs <kdepim-bugs> |
Status: | CONFIRMED --- | ||
Severity: | wishlist | ||
Priority: | NOR | ||
Version: | unspecified | ||
Target Milestone: | --- | ||
Platform: | openSUSE | ||
OS: | Linux | ||
Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: |
Description
Volker Blum
2004-09-28 16:58:27 UTC
On Tuesday 28 September 2004 16:58, Volker Blum wrote:
> For me, personally, all I need is to have KOrganizer notify me of a new
> event in exactly the same way as KMail notifies me of new mail: A small
> popup window which does not steal my focus, and that's it.
Nope, KOrganizer needs to be more intrusive, because missing an important
appointment is much more critical than missing that you have new mail. In
particular, if you are away from your computer, the notification for new mail
will be gone, without big consequences, but the alarm reminder for that
important meeting, or the reminder of your girlfriends birthday should
certainly not (as it might cost you your job, or some terrible fight with
your mate).
Put into other words, kmail just ist some informational notification, while
korganizer really needs to bother you, and you need to confirm.
Reinhold
Hi Reinhold, thanks for the quick answer. I see that your description might fit some people's needs/use of KOrganizer, but not mine. Honest. For some people, for instance a focus-stealing pop-up window might be the best choice. [KMail has such an option too, incidentally, but not KOrganizer as far as I could determine.] For others, like me, event notification can be a little reminder. Sound, the only default shown in KOganizer [except for running your own little program] is not an option for me. My reasoning: (a) A user interface should be about choice, not a theory of what the typical user might need [that is usually why KDE is so much better than, e.g., M$] (b) and just in case I missed something, the event notification option must be findable by a long-time user, i.e. best right with the event properties (c) I do not have sound, I need to have another option, and one can not expect an average user to "write a little script that creates a focus-stealing - or not - popup window" [that's my only option for a popup window now, or else I totally misunderstood the selection dialogues in KOrganizer] (d) My sincere apologies, because I have followed the Kontact efforts for a long time, know how much time went in, and am overall much impressed, but ... but (d), the selection dialogue for event notification in KOrganizer is extremely cryptic for someone who uses it the first time - much in contrast to the very well explained selection dialogue for new mail notification in KMail, the very same framework. I therefore stand by my wish, and hope that my reasoning is now better understandable. On the other hand, I do not want to annoy anyone with useless complaining (I was hoping to do something useful by this feedback). Is this message a better topic for the mailing list, rather than the bug (wish) report? Should it be redirected to /dev/null? If you think either of these, please let me know, and I will repost. Thanks again, Volker On Tuesday 28 September 2004 22:04, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- > You reported the bug, or are watching the reporter. > > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90405 > > > > > ------- Additional Comments From reinhold kainhofer com 2004-09-28 22:04 > ------- > > On Tuesday 28 September 2004 16:58, Volker Blum wrote: > > For me, personally, all I need is to have KOrganizer notify me of a new > > event in exactly the same way as KMail notifies me of new mail: A small > > popup window which does not steal my focus, and that's it. > > Nope, KOrganizer needs to be more intrusive, because missing an important > appointment is much more critical than missing that you have new mail. In > particular, if you are away from your computer, the notification for new > mail will be gone, without big consequences, but the alarm reminder for > that important meeting, or the reminder of your girlfriends birthday should > certainly not (as it might cost you your job, or some terrible fight with > your mate). > > Put into other words, kmail just ist some informational notification, while > korganizer really needs to bother you, and you need to confirm. > > Reinhold Reassigning all KOrganizer bug reports and wishes to the newly created korganizer-devel mailing list. Does this report is not a bit of duplicate of: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80406 Because the main problem is lack of unification -- or simply lack of KNotify subsystem. Having passive windows or not is subproblem, and well, it is solved by KDE notifications indeed. You just check appropriate option. |